Social Security and You: Geezers, Floozies and Valentines

OK, long story short, I ended up going out on the date. And now here it is, 50 years later. Becky is still five years older than me. But I've long since gotten over the shock and panic of that discovery and I've been back on script ever since.

But that story reminds me that not everyone stays married forever. And the rest of this column deals with folks whose marriages didn't last as long as ours has.

Q: I'm part of a group of old geezers who gets together every week at the local coffee place. Social Security is a frequent topic of conversation. At our last meeting, the subject of benefits for divorcees came up. One of our geezers was married to his first wife for 16 years and has been married to his second wife for 30 years. His first wife remarried, but she is now divorced from that guy after 20 years of marriage. Our geezer pal is curious who will get what when he dies. He's mostly wondering if his first wife will get Social Security from him or from her second husband.

A: Well, the answer depends on a lot of "ifs ands or buts" not made clear in your email to me -- such as people's ages and Social Security benefit rates. So I'll make up a scenario to give you an example of how all this would play out. We've got four people:

-- Geezer is 68 years old, started his benefits at age 67 and gets $2,100 per month from Social Security.

-- Princess, his current wife, is 62 and gets her own Social Security retirement benefit amounting to $900 per month.

-- Floozie, Geezer's first wife, is 68, and she gets $1,200 per month in her own Social Security retirement checks.

-- Wheezer is Floozie's second husband, the guy she divorced after 20 years of marriage. Let's say he is 70, still living, and gets $2,200 per month from Social Security.

And now let's say Geezer dies, and we'll see what happens. Princess has a couple choices to make. If she wants, she can immediately switch to widow's benefits. She'd keep getting her own retirement check, and that would be supplemented up to about 82% of his full rate, or about $1,722. So, she'd get $900 on her own account and $822 in widow's benefits.

Or, she can opt to continue receiving just her $900 retirement check for now, and then at age 67 get that supplemented up to Geezer's full rate. So, at age 67 she'd get her own $900 plus $1,200 in widow's benefits for a total of $2,100. And no matter which decision she makes, she'd get the one-time $255 death benefit.

Floozie is also eligible for widow's benefits on Geezer's record, because she was married to him for more than 10 years and she is currently unmarried. Since she is over her full retirement age, her own retirement benefit can be supplemented up to Geezer's full rate. So, she'll continue to get her own $1,200 per month, and she'll get $900 from Geezer's account to take her up to Geezer's full $2,100 benefit rate. (And please note that anything paid to Floozie, the divorced wife, doesn't take a nickel away from the benefits due to Princess.)

Floozie isn't due anything on Wheezer's (her second husband's) Social Security account -- at least not while he is still living. She's technically due a divorced wife's benefit (at a 50% rate) on his record, but she can't get that because her own benefit, $1,200, exceeds half his rate, or $1,100. And of course, now that we also add in Geezer's widow's benefit, her combined Social Security benefits greatly exceed anything she is due from Wheezer.

However, when Wheezer dies, she can then switch to divorced widow's benefits on his record. Her checks from Geezer would stop. And her own $1,200 retirement benefit would be supplemented with $1,000 from Wheezer's record to take her total income up to $2,200.

Is the moral of this story to be a Floozie, dump a Geezer, marry a Wheezer, then dump him, too, and hope they both die -- then watch the checks roll in? You tell me! And should I worry that after 50 years, Becky will start looking around for a Geezer or Wheezer to replace me? Probably not. She's already quite a Doozie!

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If you have a Social Security question, Tom Margenau has two books with all the answers. One is called "Social Security -- Simple and Smart: 10 Easy-to-Understand Fact Sheets That Will Answer All Your Questions About Social Security." The other is "Social Security: 100 Myths and 100 Facts." You can find the books at Amazon.com or other book outlets. (If ordering the "Simple and Smart" book from Amazon, click on "See all formats and editions" to make sure you are getting the 2024 edition.) Or you can send him an email at thomas.margenau@comcast.net. To find out more about Tom Margenau and to read past columns and see features from other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate website at www.creators.com.