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Impeachment shatters Perry's peaceful exit from Trump Cabinet

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Perry was at a July 10 meeting in which Sondland connected a White House meeting for Zelenskiy with proceeding with investigations into the 2016 election, the Bidens, and Burisma, Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a National Security Council official overseeing Ukraine policy, told House investigators in prepared testimony released late last month.

And Perry held a June 18 meeting at the Energy Department on Ukraine policy where "how to address Mr. Giuliani's continued calls for a corruption investigation," was discussed, Christopher Anderson, a state department official, said in prepared remarks to House impeachment investigators Oct. 30.

Text messages from Volker, released as part of the impeachment investigation also shows that Perry wanted to put two U.S. energy industry veterans on the board of Naftogaz Ukraine's massive state-owned energy company.

Perry has declined impeachment investigators requests to turn over documents and also spurned a request from House impeachment investigators to testify, though his spokeswoman has said he may reconsider "if the Congress passes a resolution providing for an open and transparent process -- one that includes the participation of executive branch counsel."

"Secretary Perry stands by his previous statements with regard to Ukraine. Dating back to 2017, his anti-corruption and regional energy security message has been consistent from President Poroshenko to President Zelenskiy," spokeswoman Shaylyn Hynes said in a statement. "Dating back to 2017, his anti-corruption and regional energy security message has been consistent from President Poroshenko to President Zelenskiy."

Perry has told the Christian Broadcasting Network and others that he never heard anyone from the White House bring up the Bidens.

"Not once, as God as my witness, not once was a Biden name -- not the former vice president, not his son -- ever mentioned," Perry told CBN.


Perry, in an interview with a Texas radio station last month, dismissed the entire impeachment investigation as "politics."

"It's sad that that's where we find ourselves but the fact is there is nothing that the president has done, that Rudy Giuliani has done, that anybody I have worked with over there has done that I would consider not in the proper purview and done appropriately," he told Dallas-based KLIF.

Perry is said to enjoy a good rapport with the president, having avoided the missteps that led to the downfall of other figures in the administration, such as former EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt and ex-Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke. He has said his plans to resign by Dec. 1 have nothing to do with Ukraine.

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